ANOTHER Round-a-bout accident
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November 25, 2011 12:51:33 PM PST
6:40 am (broad daylight) screeching tires, the familiar horrible sounds of a car crashing through the round-a-bout and then the horn stuck on for 20 mins. Yet again emergency services required. Hello? Someone is going to get killed on of these days!!!
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November 26, 2011 8:28:08 AM PST
You do realize that the accident in broad daylight is the fault of one of the drivers? Not the roundabout? Much like blaming the police for giving you a ticket when you are speeding, it is not the speed limit's fault - you were speeding. Roundabouts are very effective, they are here to stay, people need to learn how to drive.
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November 26, 2011 8:47:29 AM PST
I'm not blaming the round-a-bout skerr - OF COURSE people need to pay attention! I am just wondering WHEN EGPD is going to start issuing tickets there OR put speed bumps or something ... People just don't seem to get it with all of the YELLOW caution signs, arrows, reflectors etc.
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November 26, 2011 9:06:37 AM PST
My misunderstanding and apologies.
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November 26, 2011 9:25:48 AM PST
I think the DMV driving tests should be tougher. I am sorry, but if you see a curve, you slow down. Common sense says you shouldn't need someone or something to direct you. There are a lot of really BAD drivers around town. And a lot of careless, reckless young drivers as well.
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November 26, 2011 12:23:15 PM PST
Peolple have no idea how to drive in a circle. Are you talking about the ones on EG blvd near the Bel- air? They drive me crazy. Not the circles but the fact that people hav eNO idea how to drive. I think here should be a neighborhood meeting with lessons. It is a yeild not a stop sign - if you are in the circle you have the right of way (on EG blvd) If you are entering EG blvd from another street you slow down to see if someone is coming and if there is no one you go. Do not stop unless you have to
In NJ circles are used to connect highways and they go at 60 miles per hour (highways) . THe fact that people here can not dive a neighborhood street with a circle drives me crazy!!
My rant sorry.
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November 26, 2011 3:32:45 PM PST
This topic was debated not long ago and some like the roundabouts and some do not. I am one that dislikes and as I stated b4, I have not come across these in my particular jaunts to Roseville, Lincoln, Folsom, and Sacramento area. If they were so great, I'd have to ask why there are so few.
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November 28, 2011 2:10:28 PM PST
Definately, this driver was driving with major tunnel vision. I saw this happen more times than I can count downtown for over ten years. I had to navigate those car recylers in an 18 wheeler and never even scuff the tires. Duh turn in your license.
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November 28, 2011 2:16:07 PM PST
I remember when those round abouts were built in 2001. I knew this guy who would take his pick up truck and drive up to 100 mph around that thing and it was almost impossible to wreck at that speeed.
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November 28, 2011 6:54:05 PM PST
There are so few because people don't know how to use them out here. Places I've lived in the east and midwest had a lot more of them. When people know how to use them, they are very effective at reducing traffic back-ups.
There is one in the Pocket, I don't remember seeing any accidents there when I lived in that area.
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November 28, 2011 7:37:37 PM PST
The lady involved in the accident apparently fell asleep at the wheel on the way to work. I know because I jumped over our back wall when I did not see the driver get out of the car to be sure everyone was ok. We have been fortunate that no one has seriously been hurt. The main issue is speed and when it is really dark or foggy the signage is not that good. This does not include the folks who like to do laps around the round about. We have been woken up many times to crashing into the round about it can be a pain but it is part of the price of living off of a busy street. I appologize for not disconnecting the battery but in my haste of possibly helping someone in need I forgot to grab my wrench and you would have only had to hear the horn for a few minutes. :)
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November 28, 2011 9:20:16 PM PST
I had no idea people still do laps out there. How rude there are houses out there now. Back then it was a ghost town out there at night.
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November 29, 2011 1:41:01 PM PST
I count the laps while wathing tv
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November 29, 2011 1:42:57 PM PST
"watching"
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November 29, 2011 4:31:29 PM PST
That would be annoying. Reminds me of when I lived in an apartment on Greenback Lane and woke up at night to screeching tires.
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November 29, 2011 4:41:25 PM PST
My grandma had a donkey named Bakatare.
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December 2, 2011 5:17:04 PM PST
The round abouts are better than stop signs. It helps keep the flow of traffic moving more efficiently
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December 3, 2011 12:06:53 AM PST
Freeworld - you are assuming that people use them correctly. That is not my experience. What I see is people stopping at the yeild sign even if there is no one for miles, except of course me behind them having to hit my brakes.
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December 3, 2011 1:35:44 PM PST
I have witnessed several idiots going the wrong way through the round abouts.
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December 3, 2011 3:00:01 PM PST
jerseygirl  said:
Freeworld - you are assuming that people use them correctly. That is not my experience. What I see is people stopping at the yeild sign even if there is no one for miles, except of course me behind them having to hit my brakes.
We could say that about stop lights then too. Of course we assume people obey the traffic rules.
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December 3, 2011 3:03:52 PM PST
Racer, if you are referring to the round abouts on EG Blvd, I don't see how a car can go the wrong way. If you want to get onto the roundabout it is pretty hard to turn left. You said you have witnessed it several times. That is interesting.
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December 6, 2011 9:00:28 AM PST
The roundabouts can be more efficient than a stop sign but do not allow the city the option of regulating traffic like a signal does. The intersections using roundabouts on Elk Grove Blvd. all are smaller side streets feeding onto Elk Grove Blvd. so there are not huge traffic volumes at each roundabout. What scares me is that the city is consdering roundabouts at the Bradshaw/Sheldon and Waterman/Sheldon intersections. With the amount of traffic at those intersections I find it hard to believe the city would put in roundabouts and expect less accidents and a better traffic flow. Think about it- A single lane roundabout at 5 PM when an accident happens. How far will things back up then? Not a good idea.
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December 6, 2011 9:54:18 AM PST
Back when they first built the round abouts wrong way drivers were a regular occurance because those triangular barriers hadn't been installed yet. Much like the smaller round abouts downtown where confused drivers go to the left instead of the right side.
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December 7, 2011 5:41:10 PM PST
Mwhite, where did you hear that? I seriously doubt they would turn a major intersection like Bradshaw and Sheldon or Sheldon/Waterman into a roundabout. The speed is too high and it wouldn't be safe. Eventually Bradshaw and Sheldon will be a stop light at some point.
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December 8, 2011 9:04:35 AM PST
The city just had a public meeting last week to discuss the idea of roundabouts on Sheldon. City staff will finalize their recommendations in the next few weeks and submit them to the City Council for approval. The rural roads committee here in Elk Grove is pushing for roundabouts at both intersections. Sophia Scherman is on record that she would like roundabouts. If you feel differently an email to the council would be a good idea.
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December 8, 2011 11:09:22 AM PST
Because the Sheldon/Bradshaw intersection falls smack dab in the middle of the slowly decreasing designated "Rural" area, and that was the adopted recommendation of the Rural Roads Committee.
However, that was passed prior to approval of the church/k-8 school. As such, since most of the people attending the church and school will need to drive to it from out of Elk Grove and very little public transit to that area, roundabouts wouldn't be feasible. The approval of the church/school pretty much spells the demise of the rural area, save for east of Bradshaw -- and even then since the city is pushing to expand is SOI and wants to develop east of Grant Line, it won't be that way much longer. If the City wants to speed that process up, a functioning traffic light will do the job.
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December 8, 2011 11:44:51 PM PST
Read more about it at elkgrovenews.net.
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December 9, 2011 4:02:04 PM PST
Racer88  said:
Read more about it at elkgrovenews.net.
Google 404. That's an error.
The requested URL / was not found on this server. That's all we know.
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December 11, 2011 8:36:47 PM PST
jerseygirl said:
Peolple have no idea how to drive in a circle. Are you talking about the ones on EG blvd near the Bel- air? They drive me crazy. Not the circles but the fact that people hav eNO idea how to drive. I think here should be a neighborhood meeting with lessons. It is a yeild not a stop sign - if you are in the circle you have the right of way (on EG blvd) If you are entering EG blvd from another street you slow down to see if someone is coming and if there is no one you go. Do not stop unless you have to
In NJ circles are used to connect highways and they go at 60 miles per hour (highways) . THe fact that people here can not dive a neighborhood street with a circle drives me crazy!!
My rant sorry.
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December 11, 2011 8:39:16 PM PST
I'm also from New Jersey and your comment made me laugh. You better be in the outside lane in NJ if you want to exit the circle with all limbs intact. lol.
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December 11, 2011 8:45:25 PM PST
these circles are child's play compared to what they have in NJ. But then again here wind makes the news and I learned how to drive in the snow and ice.
I have to laugh or I wil ram the next person who stops at that circle when no on eis coming in the back! What is lovingly refered to "Going NJ on them" :)
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December 11, 2011 8:49:28 PM PST
I laugh at the drivers who have that confused constipated look on their face as they maneuver the tricky circles.
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December 27, 2011 7:49:27 PM PST
Jersey if you are running into people that stop at the yield sign you are probably going to fast. I would guess from your comments that you are one of 1000's of people that don't even bother to look to see if people are trying to enter from one of the feeder streets and instead just blow through the "yield" sign. I hate to point out the obvious to such a seasoned driver from NJ but a yield sign is meant to be cautionary which means if someone arrives at one of the other yield signs before you THEY have the right of way...course not even slowing or checking I guess is the NJ way. Sorry if I misread but that is my rant.
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December 28, 2011 8:46:54 AM PST
Believe this is the article referred to above. http://www.elkgrovenews.net/2011/11/elk-grove-considering-alternatives-for.html
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December 28, 2011 12:20:06 PM PST
Yes I do stop and che3ck My complaint is that people stop when they shoudl yield - look while still moving. There is no reason to be rude.
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December 29, 2011 10:28:09 AM PST
I like the round abouts. The driver's road test should be given to anyone not correctly answering that question on the written driver's test. This may eliminate some of the hassles. This may be an idea in other States as California has lots of visitors.
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January 28, 2012 8:37:37 AM PST
bvanlente said:
Jersey if you are running into people that stop at the yield sign you are probably going to fast. I would guess from your comments that you are one of 1000's of people that don't even bother to look to see if people are trying to enter from one of the feeder streets and instead just blow through the "yield" sign. I hate to point out the obvious to such a seasoned driver from NJ but a yield sign is meant to be cautionary which means if someone arrives at one of the other yield signs before you THEY have the right of way...course not even slowing or checking I guess is the NJ way. Sorry if I misread but that is my rant.
Where does she need to look? She needs to look to the left to see if there are any cars coming or already in the intersection. There's no need to look to the right because any cars already at the roundabout will be entering the roundabout and will not be there when she enters.
Anyone who stops at the yield sign if someone is to the right or, even worse, directly across the roundabout is needlessly blocking traffic.
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January 28, 2012 9:28:46 AM PST
thanks for having my back. For the record in my original statement I was being sarcastic. I have never caused an accident at a circle and won't. I get frustrated when people use a yield sign as a stop sign. AND in NJ we know how to use circles was my point. I do slow down and check because that is what yeild means.
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January 31, 2012 6:09:50 AM PST
Where does she need to look? She needs to look to the left to see if there are any cars coming or already in the intersection. There's no need to look to the right because any cars already at the roundabout will be entering the roundabout and will not be there when she enters.
Anyone who stops at the yield sign if someone is to the right or, even worse, directly across the roundabout is needlessly blocking traffic.
Except for those sneaky pedestrians. I get the distinction between yielding and stopping, but yielding doesn't mean don't look both ways.
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